@Strange Days (pureblood) Well, this these posts will be lesser found. You don't seem to understand how the Fediverse and most software is working. Most software finds posts through hashtags, not clear-text searches. Searching clear-text is to costly (SQL query time) and then has performance problems.
@Strange Days (pureblood) Why separate from the rest of the #Fediverse? And yes, I exist here on the Fediverse since #StatusNet was mature and Evan was still working on it and not started his #pumpio thing. That is indeed a separate family, because it isn't widely supported (Friendica and Hubzilla I think do).
Besides, we all worked our asses off to put proper hashtags on everything just to see our collections disappear, so that makes you a rookie idealist and us veterans xD
@Strange Days (pureblood) Okay, then I forgot that detail in Diaspora. With Mastodon and Friendica and many maybe more you CAN edit posts. Case closed.
@herve_02 Okay, let's turn irony off. Homosexuals can enjoy consenting sex as they wish, with adult humans, of course. But sex with animals and even children? That's disgusting.
but sex with animals and even children? That’s disgusting.
for some, sex with an adult of the same "gender" (lol) IS disgusting. I can not figure out who has the right to draw a line and saying the THAT line is the limit between normality and disgustinity ?
to have sex with a 16 Yo girl is disgusting if you have let's says... 21. but to marry a 18yo +1 day girls when you have 80 and a lot of money is "normality"...
@herve_02 Yes, sure. Still when children are involved, a clear line has crossed. I find it wrong to not set clear lines (which should never be crossed). Like you said, 18 years old boy with 14 years old girl, as long as parents agree? But 60+ men with a 17 years old? Not 18+ years old, no adult = child. Period! Parents must decide. With 18+ then they are "adult" and that's their responsibility.
well... i do not say it is "open" with children. i just says that a line is difficult to draw...
18 years old boy with 14 years old girl, as long as parents agree?
well the line is really tiny so. I have no strong position. of course before puberty... but after ? some human are still young in their head at 20 and some are already adult at 13. If the limit is just "the law" who draw the limit ? if the limit is morality, which one ?
i do not says that limits are not good. But what happened to the "customers" of Epstein ? where they within the limits ?
Why parents should/could decide if a girl can fuck someone if she is 17.95 and the girl decides at 18.01. what changed within that week ?
I guess (just a guess without long thinking) it comes to (as always) domination. the 80+ old fellow with money has a "power" over the young girl. the 42 man has the "power" in front of a 14 yo girl...
In my opinion i much prefer a 25 guy seducing a 17 yo girl compared to a teacher explaining a 17yo girl that she could be a boy and cut off her breast and destroy her vagina to "construct" a false dick. what is accepted or not ... politics ?
ok, so the line is "the law" - not the human, the law.
tomorrow someone will vote a new law, and the line will be changed although the situation is the same.
in the USA, you can be fucked by a 60+ man at 18, but you cannot buy a beer. are you really adult ?
personally i have no clear opinion, i understand that some lines must be drawn and i am happy not being the one who has to do it. I am sad that the justice who should decide whet to do with the ones passing the line stay silent with the epstein thing.
i always think that everything should be take at the global level. If you can vote, you can do everything an adult has the right to do : fuck with an adult, buy alcohol, drive a car, work in company. a sort of "package", all at the same age limit.
If for things you are considered as adult and for other things you are not.... the questions has to be raised
@herve_02 So you consider <18 years old as adults, too? Or what do you mean by this? I talk here about German laws and you are considered as adult/responsible with 18+ years old, not 17 or younger. That is plainly and simple what law says here. So how can minors vote when their political opinion isn't even there to begin with? I get a bad feeling chatting with you about this.
nope, but why you can't buy beer at 18 in the states ? if you are an adult ?
i just say that being an adult is not a good hypothesis to have discussion. I do not says that you could/should be an adult at 13.
what i am saying is that a human is a human. being in germany or usa or france or italy do not change what you are. more, if what you could do depends in what country you are, if your status depends of the country, we are just talking about laws and not morality. and laws are just the expression of the "dominants".
if you read carefully what i am saying, i just try to point out that some comportments considered as "normality" are not.when a 25 fuck a 17 (no rape) the life of the 17 will be very less impacted that the girls mutilated to be "like a boy" and the teacher that pushed her has no fear of the laws and the judges. because the laws decided it is ok.
of course adults fucking children should be put to jail, but they are not the only to be imprisoned. And some comportments must be punished. If you stick to adults do what they want because they are adults, it seems, in my opinion, to lack very important things.
And i re ask the same question. IF fucking children is so "disgusting", why all the epstein/maxwell "customers" are not in jail ? almost everybody know who they are.
@herve_02 Okay, then I misunderstood you, sorry. Yes, that trans thing is very more life-impacting, e.g. when you let the doctors cut your dick out or your breasts and vagina out.
@herve_02 And I agree with you that pedophilia is disgusting, no matter if you are straight or a gay. If two gays enjoy it, fine with me. Why would I feel offended by them? I just ignore them and smile because I know 2 men lesser who will flirt with my wife.
Yes, that's true about Epstein/Maxwell "customers". Maybe because the US government supports pedophilia? And therefore they don't protect kids from this disgusting (and for the children traumatizing!) stuff. YOU must protect your kids from these nasty people, including "drag-queen hours" for children. They aren't "drag queens/kings", they are groomer clown. Don't tell me they are not seeking attention while they (groomers) look so extravagant and overly sex-appealing (to adult gays perhaps, fine me).
@herve_02 Check with me what is okay for minors/kids: - Drinking alcohol -> NO - Driving cars -> NO - taking drugs -> NO - learning useful things, like traditional family -> NO
But allowing/"consenting" doctors to cut their dicks off? YES!
And sorry again, I want to apologize here that I misunderstood you.
And sorry again, I want to apologize here that I misunderstood you.
no need to, i sometimes elude some thinkings jumping to conclusions that can be misinterpreted.
But i persist in saying a minor of.. 16-18 will be less impacted buy fucking than mutilating. I do not think adult SHOULD fuck teenagers, but i do think that there are much more problematic comportments that should be addressed in priority.
@herve_02 Yes, you CAN drive. But the key question is here, SHOULD you? Or is it better to be more matured and grown in mind? Okay, I can live perfectly with it that you reject sex between adults and teenagers. Why cannot the adult find an other adult partner but have to resume to teenagers? I have an age gap of 13 years to my wife and we are fine with it.
@herve_02 Let me say it clearly here: I always oppose and reject rape, that's no way a "culture", it is disgusting, too! And whoever rapes whoever, all of it is disgusting.
Also let me give you another example how I see things: You can find e.g. chocolate ice cream wonderful and vanilla ice cream disgusting. Right? But an other opinion which might be the opposite of it must be equally valid. So live and let live! Let gays and lesbians enjoy whatever they do (adults who cares!) but also let me feeling disgusted by that thought that one man fucks another man's butt. Yuck! But they shouldn't be worried about how I feel about it, right?
@herve_02 No, it isn't the same. She then (13 years old) would be a minor and me (26 years old then) an adult. We both are now adults, so no worries. Just as an example that such age gaps CAN be still fine.
i understand what you are saying. I just point out that you just say
She then (13 years old) would be a minor and me (26 years old then) an adult.
i have no problems with your 13 difference. i do not care about gay and but fucking or interracial or whatever sexual practice between consenting adults. i was just pointing out that the result would/could be the same. i do not want to say you should have done it or it should/could be done. just the result could be the same.
You just stick to child/adult forbidden. ok. i am pointing out that the reality is much more complex. If now you can live with a 13 younger wife. why it just could start at 18-31 and not 16-29, if in fine the situation remains the same. i do not say the adult should have romance/sex with children, nor you should not be married with a younger wife. i was just pointing out that the laws are just human laws and not nature things. things c
@herve_02 I won't do the same for whatever consenting you enjoy, interracial or mono-racial, doesn't matter to me. But when people tell me that my lifestyle is bad because it doesn't reflect 100% theirs or doesn't include them, then I have a problem with people. Or take a look at this #meme :
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for some, sex with an adult of the same "gender" (lol) IS disgusting. I can not figure out who has the right to draw a line and saying the THAT line is the limit between normality and disgustinity ?
to have sex with a 16 Yo girl is disgusting if you have let's says... 21. but to marry a 18yo +1 day girls when you have 80 and a lot of money is "normality"...
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in reply to cranston • • •well... i do not say it is "open" with children. i just says that a line is difficult to draw...
well the line is really tiny so. I have no strong position. of course before puberty... but after ? some human are still young in their head at 20 and some are already adult at 13. If the limit is just "the law" who draw the limit ? if the limit is morality, which one ?
i do not says that limits are not good. But what happened to the "customers" of Epstein ? where they within the limits ?
Why parents should/could decide if a girl can fuck someone if she is 17.95 and the girl decides at 18.01. what changed within that week ?
I guess (just a guess without long thinking) it comes to (as always) domination. the 80+ old fellow with money has a "power" over the young girl. the 42 man has the "power" in front of a 14 yo girl...
In my opinion i much prefer a 25 guy seducing a 17 yo girl compared to a teacher explaining a 17yo girl that she could be a boy and cut off her breast and destroy her vagina to "construct" a false dick. what is accepted or not ... politics ?
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in reply to herve_02 • •herve_02
in reply to cranston • • •ok, so the line is "the law" - not the human, the law.
tomorrow someone will vote a new law, and the line will be changed although the situation is the same.
in the USA, you can be fucked by a 60+ man at 18, but you cannot buy a beer. are you really adult ?
personally i have no clear opinion, i understand that some lines must be drawn and i am happy not being the one who has to do it. I am sad that the justice who should decide whet to do with the ones passing the line stay silent with the epstein thing.
i always think that everything should be take at the global level. If you can vote, you can do everything an adult has the right to do : fuck with an adult, buy alcohol, drive a car, work in company. a sort of "package", all at the same age limit.
If for things you are considered as adult and for other things you are not.... the questions has to be raised
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in reply to cranston • • •nope, but why you can't buy beer at 18 in the states ? if you are an adult ?
i just say that being an adult is not a good hypothesis to have discussion. I do not says that you could/should be an adult at 13.
what i am saying is that a human is a human. being in germany or usa or france or italy do not change what you are. more, if what you could do depends in what country you are, if your status depends of the country, we are just talking about laws and not morality. and laws are just the expression of the "dominants".
if you read carefully what i am saying, i just try to point out that some comportments considered as "normality" are not.when a 25 fuck a 17 (no rape) the life of the 17 will be very less impacted that the girls mutilated to be "like a boy" and the teacher that pushed her has no fear of the laws and the judges. because the laws decided it is ok.
of course adults fucking children should be put to jail, but they are not the only to be imprisoned. And some comportments must be punished. If you stick to adults do what they want because they are adults, it seems, in my opinion, to lack very important things.
And i re ask the same question. IF fucking children is so "disgusting", why all the epstein/maxwell "customers" are not in jail ? almost everybody know who they are.
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in reply to Roland Häder • •@herve_02 And I agree with you that pedophilia is disgusting, no matter if you are straight or a gay. If two gays enjoy it, fine with me. Why would I feel offended by them? I just ignore them and smile because I know 2 men lesser who will flirt with my wife.
Yes, that's true about Epstein/Maxwell "customers". Maybe because the US government supports pedophilia? And therefore they don't protect kids from this disgusting (and for the children traumatizing!) stuff. YOU must protect your kids from these nasty people, including "drag-queen hours" for children. They aren't "drag queens/kings", they are groomer clown. Don't tell me they are not seeking attention while they (groomers) look so extravagant and overly sex-appealing (to adult gays perhaps, fine me).
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they are children too... fucking no : cut dick yes... if someone can explain me...
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- Drinking alcohol -> NO
- Driving cars -> NO
- taking drugs -> NO
- learning useful things, like traditional family -> NO
But allowing/"consenting" doctors to cut their dicks off? YES!
And sorry again, I want to apologize here that I misunderstood you.
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no need to, i sometimes elude some thinkings jumping to conclusions that can be misinterpreted.
But i persist in saying a minor of.. 16-18 will be less impacted buy fucking than mutilating. I do not think adult SHOULD fuck teenagers, but i do think that there are much more problematic comportments that should be addressed in priority.
i think in the USA you can drive car before 18.
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in reply to herve_02 • •@herve_02 Let me say it clearly here: I always oppose and reject rape, that's no way a "culture", it is disgusting, too! And whoever rapes whoever, all of it is disgusting.
Also let me give you another example how I see things: You can find e.g. chocolate ice cream wonderful and vanilla ice cream disgusting. Right? But an other opinion which might be the opposite of it must be equally valid. So live and let live! Let gays and lesbians enjoy whatever they do (adults who cares!) but also let me feeling disgusted by that thought that one man fucks another man's butt. Yuck! But they shouldn't be worried about how I feel about it, right?
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you could have started with her when she was 13 and you 26. the result could have been the same... or not... i have no answer.
i was for some time a teacher of kids 13-18 they were "like my kids" and i could not imagine have romance with them and even less sex....
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in reply to cranston • • •i understand what you are saying. I just point out that you just say
i have no problems with your 13 difference. i do not care about gay and but fucking or interracial or whatever sexual practice between consenting adults. i was just pointing out that the result would/could be the same. i do not want to say you should have done it or it should/could be done. just the result could be the same.
You just stick to child/adult forbidden. ok. i am pointing out that the reality is much more complex. If now you can live with a 13 younger wife. why it just could start at 18-31 and not 16-29, if in fine the situation remains the same. i do not say the adult should have romance/sex with children, nor you should not be married with a younger wife. i was just pointing out that the laws are just human laws and not nature things. things c
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in reply to cranston • • •things can be re-writed (and they are now, by the way)...
it is always a domination thing.
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