@verita84 @Rock DJ #Gaming under #Linux is possible, but with some "restrictions", like waiting patiently for fixes in #WINE (I can play many games now). It currently has a memory leak, so games will crash with an OOM error. But for me, that isn't important to why I use Linux for 25 years now. Games aren't important at all. I can now play older games which didn't run on release but run now flawless under plain WINE (no Proton needed anymore for e.g. #Satisfactory under #HeroicGamesLauncher ).
@roland I've been gaming on Linux exclusively for the past three years and I have no doubt it will improve more with time but I am getting disillusioned with all the corporate and political meddling. I will keep using it on desktop but am retreating to distros that annoy me least about Wayland, or have gay Marxist developers. I even want to ditch systemd but that will be a slower transition that I haven't committed to yet. Gaming on windows again has been an extreme pleasure for me and my family, I forced them to use Linux and am grateful they humored me but the experience was sub optimal and there's less enthusiasm to keep dog fooding it. I recommend Windows 11 LTSC IoT version for the cleanest and less buggered experience.
@Hagmaster Tyler @Rock DJ @verita84 Yes, true. Linux (WINE) made progress but it is painfully slow. Even I contributed one commit to WINE: 8c1da99e5252848c99754020f29cbc67a5bd4fbd is where I added my GTX 1650 to the known GPU list.
@Rock DJ @verita84 I can understand you here, just wanting to play games. Then your best choice is still - and unfortunate - Windows. Here and there is a Linux port available, like with Factorio or Fire Watch. But it isn't the majority. Still good to see that companies finally start turning towards Linux.
@Rock DJ @verita84 Maybe try a dual-boot? Is that with #UEFI still possible today? I heard/read that Windows becomes problematic when it isn't in the MBR or so?
@Rock DJ @Large Leader @Kyonko802 @verita84 #Devuan is cool, it is Debian without systemd. When I had Debian installed and sysinitv was in place I was able to see all important console messages. With systemd that was no longer possible. So I was switching to Devuan and that problem was solved for good. The only remaining thing with it is, that scrolling on console isn't working. For example I enter pstree -p which should give a long output and suddenly the scrolling stops and the input is outside the screen (not visible). I then have to switch consoles so it is there but then I cannot back-scroll (upwards) anymore.
Maybe I wrote it a bit complicated here, sorry for my bad English.
- Again thanks to Eric Youngdale for some very useful comments. - The Windows startup code created by Micrsoft C 7.0 now runs to completion. - Added a new patch to the kernel to increase the usable size of the ldt to the full 32 entries currently allowed. - Imported name relocations are now supported. - Source code for my infamous test program is now included. - A handful of basic Windows functions are now emulated. See "kernel.spec" for examples of how to use the build program.
WHAT'S NEW with version 0.0.1:
- Eric Youngdale contributed countless improvements in memory efficiency, bug fixes, and relocation. - The build program has been completed. It now lets you specify how the main DLL entry point should interface to your emulation library routines. A brief description of how to build these specifications is included in the file "build-spec.txt". - The code to dispatch builtin DLL calls is complete, but untested.
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Flatpak probably is the way huh?
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I will keep using it on desktop but am retreating to distros that annoy me least about Wayland, or have gay Marxist developers. I even want to ditch systemd but that will be a slower transition that I haven't committed to yet.
Gaming on windows again has been an extreme pleasure for me and my family, I forced them to use Linux and am grateful they humored me but the experience was sub optimal and there's less enthusiasm to keep dog fooding it.
I recommend Windows 11 LTSC IoT version for the cleanest and less buggered experience.
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It is better than ever but still shitty and also Anti-Cheat
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You can dualboot win and lin perfectly fine. Just make the UEFI partition 1 GB and then install windows then Linux
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If your OS can't do everything you need, you are using the wrong OS
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in reply to Large Leader • • •If you are bored you can add the mint repository to devuan and roll your own lmde without systemd. I thought about it but I'm lazy.
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in reply to Rock DJ • •@Rock DJ @Large Leader @Kyonko802 @verita84 #Devuan is cool, it is Debian without systemd. When I had Debian installed and sysinitv was in place I was able to see all important console messages. With systemd that was no longer possible. So I was switching to Devuan and that problem was solved for good. The only remaining thing with it is, that scrolling on console isn't working. For example I enter
pstree -pwhich should give a long output and suddenly the scrolling stops and the input is outside the screen (not visible). I then have to switch consoles so it is there but then I cannot back-scroll (upwards) anymore.Maybe I wrote it a bit complicated here, sorry for my bad English.
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1993 ... I wasn't even there with Linux around
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